Mike Smullin
Husband, Father, Entrepreneur, Investor, Engineer, Artist, and Self-motivated Student currently located in Eagle Mountain, Utah.
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New Citi® Dividend World MasterCard®
12Today I received a new Citi® Dividend World MasterCard®. That’s not very unusual, until you realize Citibank didn’t ask for my permission–I already have a Citi® Platinum Select® MasterCard® with them, and I recently renewed it on the expiration date. They are pushing this new card as though it’s some kind of mandatory upgrade, yet it is still an opt-out offer and my old card doesn’t expire until 2010 and it’s working great. Very strange… (more…)
Born on a Curvy Day
1I was born on a Saturday which is a curvy day in the genius mind of Daniel Tammet. This is one thing we have in common.
Daniel is an extremely rare savant gifted with almost unimaginable mental powers, much like the Rain Man (based on the real-life story of Kim Peek, from Salt Lake City, Utah).
But Daniel is different—he leads a fully independent life, his own company, his own book, and maintains his own blog.
Foreclosure Auctions
5Salt Lake County Trustees’ Sales (a.k.a. foreclosure auctions) are held at the Third District County Courthouse in Salt Lake City, Utah inside the rotunda (see below). Auctions are commonly scheduled Mon-Fri at 10:15 AM, 10:30 AM, 11:30 AM and 5:00 PM.
In order to bid you need to bring a Cashier’s Check for $5,000.00 made out to yourself for two reasons: 1) if you don’t use it, you can deposit it in your bank and 2) if you do use it, you can write “Pay to the order of” on the back of it and sign it over to anyone you like. In this case, it is the name of the foreclosing attorney.
The remaining balance is due by 12:00 PM the next day so most people use cash or hard money to purchase these homes. However, I have heard rumors that Tom Lakey of Aspen Home Loans has worked out a mortgage loan program with our local Mountain America Credit Union to finance auction winners.
On average there are about 20-30 people bidding on properties (see below) and almost all of them are experienced investors. Some have been buying at auctions for as many as 10 years or more. I was surprised to find NONE of them go to our local real estate investors associations WAREIA or SLREIA.
Since Notice of Trustees Sale are required to be recorded against the property and published in The Record, which is a local legal newspaper in limited circulation, many of them had lists of the auctions for that day mixed in with data such as opening bid which can be readily obtained by contacting the foreclosing attorney’s office with a file/case/trustee number.
Of course, they have their secretaries compile this information daily while they attempt to drive by the home for an exterior inspection, and offer to help the homeowner by purchasing the home directly from them for what the owe or by negotiating a short sale and thereby getting access to the interior for inspection and eliminating the competition of an auction.
Sometimes, when the house is vacant, investors have been known to cut screens and go through windows or kick-in doors as a last resort effort to see what kind of condition the home is in before bidding at the auction. Some investors will indirectly admit to the fact and justify as moral gray area because 1) the homeowner has abandoned it and 2) the bank doesn’t own it yet so 3) nobody is around to call the police.
The house I was going to bid on was worth $370 in Cottonwood 84121 (great middle/upper-class area experiencing high appreciation) and had at least $200k in equity. The foreclosing lender would have had an opening bid of somewhere around $180k. (see below)
As is often the case, I called 3 hours ahead to confirm the auction was still a go and the foreclosing attorney’s secretary confirmed that it was, but when time for the auction came it was announced as having been cancelled (most likely due to last-minute bankruptcy or reinstatement).
I was surprised to see how many foreclosures were happening in Magna which is about one of the worst cities in Salt Lake County and well-reknown for its terrible water even though there is worse water in places like Sandy.
It was interesting to listen to bids. I had my notebook with me so I was able to quickly jot down the sequence of bidding on a particular property in Magna. There were only two bidders and seeing their interest made me wonder what’s out there? I might have to drive by the property to see, but here’s how it went:
Auctioneer:
klausen property – 5258 s rome indy park unit #185 in magna (or something like that)
sale held pursuant to deed of trust held by settlor aka. homeowner
recorded by trustee aka. mortgage servicer or title company
beneficiary is beneficiary aka. foreclosing lender
opening bid is $79,364.35
One man raises his finger above his shoulder.
Auctioneer:
opening bid taken as a dollar over
do i have any other bids?
Bid increments:
1 dollar over
100 dollars over
$79,500
$79,600
$79,700
$79,800
$79,900
$80,000
$80,100
$80,200
$80,300
$80,500
$80,600
$81,000
$82,000
$82,100
$82,200
$82,300
$82,400
$82,500
$82,700
$82,800
Auctioneer:
going once, twice, SOLD!
Notice the variation in the bid increments. They start at a dollar. Who knows? If nobody else wants it, why pay any more? A smart move and also a well-known classic; notice how the auctioneer immediately assumes it. As a novice bidder participating in a live auction you may think that it is smart to listen carefully to the bid increments, and get a feel for your opponent’s threshold as the bid increments are said with more hesitency and with lesser amounts.
Yet they bid at 100, then 300, then 100, then 400, then 100… trying to throw each other off. There is no hesitency and no excitement–it’s almost as if they’re using a bidding metronome to keep pace and monotone voice with a poker face to match.
Finally he bidding ends abruptly at $82,000 and the losing bidder takes his leave signaling that he was obviously waiting for only that one property. Everyone else stays until the bidding is over and some are friendly enough to talk with me, an obvious newcomer since 99% of them do this every single day.
I was delighted to exchange business cards and receive offers for hard money, deal partnering, etc.
I was disappointed to see that one or two had a negative attitude toward newcomers–seeing them only as competition and trying to tell me scary stories about how there’s no deals and all the bad deals they’ve gotten–hoping to scare me away.
How do I know what to buy?
1Maybe you are interested in this data from Q4 2005 that I got from the
SL County Realtors.
I pulled some statistics for myself to answer the following questions:
Q: What price range of houses can most people afford right now?
A: Between $140k-$160k

Q: How long does it take for most homes to sell on the MLS right now?
A: Less than 30 days

Q: How are most people paying for their homes right now?
A: Conventional Financing

Q: What are the best cities to buy houses in? Which has the most
appreciation? Which has the most sales? Which has the best of both
worlds?
A: 84065 Riverton, 84121 Cottonwood, 84084 West Jordan, 84092 Sandy, 84093 Sandy

Later I will post two more similar reports to answer the
following questions:
1) How is the population flowing in Utah? Where are most people living
right now and how has that changed from previous quarters.
2) What can the average household afford? What are their incomes?
The Land Trust
0Recently I was reading on Robert Kiyosaki’s RichDad.com Community Forum a question asked by a newbie seeking truth. None could answer, so I answered for him. I posted a copy of my message here hoping to benefit and inspire others who also seek it.
His question was: “For the purpose of holding title to investment real estate properties, when would a trust be more beneficial than a corporation?”
Later in the post someone asked him if he meant a Real Estate Investment Trust or REIT. He replied, “Well, I really don’t know the first thing about trusts, but I assume it’d be an REIT.” I had to laugh, and answer his question:
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no lol it’s not an REIT–its called a Land Trust.
Land Trusts protect property.
LLCs protect people.
An LLC can be a beneficiary of a Land Trust, thus protecting property AND people. This is the best configuration for a real estate investor.
If Robert Kiyosaki needs another million dollar book idea he should get Bill J. Gatten on his team of advisors and write a book with him about the Land Trust.
Furthermore, when you combine a Land Trust with a Triple Net lease to the tenant buyer as a beneficiary of the trust, magical things can happen. None can partition the property to satisfy judgments or creditors–not the seller, not the investor, not the tenant/buyer. None can lose the property as a result of a lawsuit, bankruptcy, or marital dispute–not the seller, not the investor, not the tenant/buyer. Landlords can convey tax benefits to the tenant buyer (namely the income tax deduction for paying mortgage interest and property taxes) None can attach a lien, or judgment, or otherwise cloud title to the property–not the seller, not the investor, not the tenant/buyer.
Only when the seller and/or investor and the tenant/buyer are in completely unanimous agreement can anything legally be done with the property. This is a blessing, not a curse.
Lease Options, Contract For Deeds, All-Inclusive Trust Deeds, Wrap-Around Mortgages, etc. all violate the lender’s Due on Sale clause, but there is no sale when the seller places their property into a Land Trust. Further, there is a legal exception allowed by the federal government that protects homeowners who place their property into a Land Trust from the Due on Sale clause–no lender can call it, regardless of whether their contract states it or not.
Likewise, these ‘other’ methods of creative real estate investment that are so popular today do not protect the property by themselves. For example, what would happen if an investor with 10 lease options were to file for bankruptcy, or if his wife were to fight for the cashflow in a marital dispute or divorce, or if he were to injure another in a automobile accident and be sued. What are the tenant/buyer’s rights?? They have none. The property would be taken to satisfy a judgment.
Further, what would happen if a tenant/buyer were to allow the water softner company to put a lien against their lease optioned property, and then not pay the bill? Or not pay the rent? What are the Landlord’s rights?? None. The house cannot be sold until the lien is satisfied.
Take heed. Many reputable attorneys are not specialized in the Land Trust. Very few even know what it is. Estate planning attorneys do not always recognize them, because they are not the every day type of trust. A Land Trust is a living revocable inter-vivos trust. Furthermore, the type of Land Trust I am speaking of is co-beneficiary directed, or more specifically known as the Equity-Holding Trust.
Do not let them tell you these are illegal where you live. They only want to sell you another lease option document. Research and you will find that they are legal in every state in the union without exception by virtue of the statue of uses (basically, they are legal because they are not specifically illegal).
I hope this has illuminated your confusion regarding the ‘trust’ used for real estate investment purposes.